Buds Software Cracker
I don't know about you guys but I'm sick and tired of BRP holding me hostage with their B.U.D.S system. I just installed the premium upgrade module that has the temp, compass, pass record/playback and time functions only to find out that my sled has to be hooked up to the B.U.D.S system to enable the clock function. So I get to pay another $70 on top of the $150 for the module? Anyhow, I have a background in electronics as well as computer programming and if possible would like to start developing an open-source system that everyone can afford and use for themselves at home.
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That will require extensive reverse engineering and a lot of time and help from others. We would need techies of course, but also regular everyday people who would be willing to help capture the data exchange between their sleds and the real B.U.D.S system and report back. Anybody interested in helping with project like this?
I would be happy to help out. I would imagine that it cannot be a whole lot different than a OBDII code scanner for a vehicle. That code was once factory hidden, but is now available to the consumer, if they purchase a code reader, or even an app for your smartphone and a bluetooth adapter for the OBDII port will get you basic data wireless on your smartphone. If that company can do it with a Seadoo, then I would think a sled shouldnt be anymore different.
They are doing something like that with HiJacker systems for the turbo guys. Should be able to do something with this.
Now, easier said than done. But I would be happy to help in any way. Www.candoopro.com Just bought one for my Sea-doo, speaking to Dennis (one of the 2 owners). He has the code working for all Ski-doos except e-tec (the coding is almost done). He is the coder, it's coded in.NET.
I was able to marry my new cluster for my Sea-doo as well as program 2 extra keys (You have to merry new clusters as it's tied to the ECU). The base system ($399) comes with 4 licenses (each license is good for 1 VIN or HIN). After that you can buy more licenses for $37.50. The pro system is $1400 (unlimited VINs) Currently they are waiting for a dongle to power the MPEM on the sleds - as unlike the Sea-doos where it powers up when you put the key on. The sleds require a dongle to power the computer when the machine is off. I'm not sure the e-tecs are like that, but my 2-stroke is.
The only thing the CanDooPro can not do for legal reasons is upload new Flash programs to the computer. Far cry 4 w dlcs repack. On the Sea-Doo I'm also able to change from Imperial to metric, enable depth sounder, enable VTS, reset super charger hours, reset last service date/who did it etc. Of course read past trouble codes. You can view tons of info as well. History of RPM ranges (# of minutes at each range). The computer in the Sea-doo also stores the last 60 seconds of history. So far I'm VERY impressed with Tool (cables are VERY good quality) as well as the Software.
Jeff is the other owner and posts on GreenHulk, he is the hardware guy. Www.candoopro.com Just bought one for my Sea-doo, speaking to Dennis (one of the 2 owners). He has the code working for all Ski-doos except e-tec (the coding is almost done). He is the coder, it's coded in.NET. I was able to marry my new cluster for my Sea-doo as well as program 2 extra keys (You have to merry new clusters as it's tied to the ECU). The base system ($399) comes with 4 licenses (each license is good for 1 VIN or HIN). After that you can buy more licenses for $37.50.
The pro system is $1400 (unlimited VINs) Currently they are waiting for a dongle to power the MPEM on the sleds - as unlike the Sea-doos where it powers up when you put the key on. The sleds require a dongle to power the computer when the machine is off.
I'm not sure the e-tecs are like that, but my 2-stroke is. The only thing the CanDooPro can not do for legal reasons is upload new Flash programs to the computer. On the Sea-Doo I'm also able to change from Imperial to metric, enable depth sounder, enable VTS, reset super charger hours, reset last service date/who did it etc. Of course read past trouble codes.
You can view tons of info as well. History of RPM ranges (# of minutes at each range). The computer in the Sea-doo also stores the last 60 seconds of history. So far I'm VERY impressed with Tool (cables are VERY good quality) as well as the Software. Jeff is the other owner and posts on GreenHulk, he is the hardware guy.
Ben Good info. I assumed they were not released quite yet as I have been in contact with them awaiting to purchase. Thanks for all your replies guys. I think as suggested that I will check out the candoopro tool when it's ready for ski-doo. I don't think there's much sense duplicating what's already been done. Particularly one that seems so sophisticated.
I also agree with supporting my local dealers and I do as often as possible but there are/were a couple of 'dandies' in my area who make it seem like they're doing me a favour by serving me. That I have a low tolerance for. One has closed up shop and the other I suspect is on BRP's hit list as they are not meeting the 'platinum' standards for service. I'm going to try some different dealers in the Golden Horseshoe area to see if I can find one reasonably close who appreciates their customers. GSXelent: Thanks for the tip on the CAN bus reader. That would otherwise be a great start. Do you know where you can get this harness?
Nope, just needs to be built. You have to understand the field of work that I'm in.we are always building break out test boxes, harnesses for software programs from the laptop to the aircraft, etc.just needs to connect from RS port from the computer to the diagnostics plug on the machine, need power source to energize the ecm. Now granted we do a lot of 'copying', rent a box for a week and build our own copy. But, the issue I think anyone is going to have is getting ahold of the software - I understand BRP is very strict with who has it and watches it very carefully. Sooner or later I'm sure it will surface, but wow it's already been 6 years.
Well put my order in for the budds hacked version today, looks pretty sweet from what i seen and have been told, it will not allow you to alter the main fuel map just yet but will let anything a dealer can do will work with 800r and etec motors, no more running to the dealer for stupid codes or such, and if i want timing added, check senors, or dess keys changed, i can do it myself will work with any microsoft windows, so it will work on most pdfs. Cost is 500dollars for 4 vins hopfully soon we can do mapping as well, let the tuning begin. I have had it for a month, couple hic ups but Dennis and Jeff are totaly awesome people to work with, the four sled package allows you to have four sleds or one sled with the tether programed for all of your sleds then you only use one license up.
Very simple to use read codes, program tethers, set TPS and they are working on the timing advance feature. They may have that on there now I have not checked in lately. You need there interface box not just a harness, so getting the just the harness won't work.I would have bought one no matter what if it was out ten years ago. Payout is in two tethers!
I have it for the 2008 XP, I take it with me on all trips never know who loses a tether or messed up codes that need to be cleared for a small amount of happy pop!:canada. Well i worked with it one night last week, it found the 800r quick, and i found a few codes, ereased them and added timing, also reset the tps, if you wanted to work with the dess keys or reprogram all your sleds to swap teathers you can, it also gives you option to delete the entire dess system i could not find the speed to rpm graph, or change my sled serial number, or find engine volts as far as etec, nothing works yet as dennis will have a release out this next week he says for that we will see. Would like to clear up some of the confusion a little bit. First off, our software is not a hacked version of buds, it was built from the ground up and is currently supporting 137 different ECU's and Cluster's.
Therefore, it can get very confusing when one says I can't set the timing and another says I can set the timing. We have learned a little lesson about timing, as most know we started with the SeaDoo Jet Ski's and in this world it's rare for someone to ask about timing changes.
So it never clicked with us that it would be really important feature for the SkiDoo's. We fully understand why once I was told you needed it for going up the mountains and it totally makes sense. Now, the where we have been struggling and still struggle, is figuring out which system each ski is based on. From the Buds diagnostic chart that tells you which cable to use they tell you to go by the Chassis type. (How do you map the multiple models to this, I have yet to figure out an easy way) But when you get into the diagnostic point of view we look at each ECU or MPEM individually, because they are all unique. We have to code to each and everyone. Where it gets fun is someone emails us and says I'm working on my MXZ, well there is 19 MXZ's in 2009.
Guess what, you can get it with a E-TEC, Power Tec, 4-Tec, etc. Each one is completely different technologies. Here's where we are with support for Timing Changes. MPEM based sleds: Fully supported just like Buds.
4-Tec: Does not support changing the timing and neither does Buds, it's automatic in the ECU. SDI based sleds: Fully supported just like Buds Power-TEC Coming soon, We have figured out how to set the different values, and need to code it all up. E-TEC Not really supported yet, but if you are in a bind you can do the following read the faults and program a key, that's it. We have figured out how to read a lot of the other information, and we will be coding this up soon. We then have to work on how to write back the different settings. Just to explain how complicated this system is, We rather do the whole SeaDoo lineup again from scratch.
Something else I have noticed, A lot of you guys are resetting the TPS for the fun of it. Our SeaDoo guys learned a lesson from this, especially the guys with the older stuff from say 1998 - 2004.
You should only reset the TPS if it has been removed or changed. The TPS is simply a carbon trace on a pc board, it has a wiper that rubs across it and rubs the carbon.
Most of the time the Sled is sitting at the idle position, and everything before this position is covered with carbon dust while the idle position is worn out. If you reset on an older basically worn out TPS, you can throw off the whole fuel curve, if you had left it alone, everything would have been fine. Dennis Matthews CANDooPro.com. Few questions dennis from what i read in your post you say timing changes on the carb 800r cannoit happen, i did the timing change the other night and thought it was added?? Timing is a big thing with the elevation bigbores, nitrous, compression, a main reason i wanted your solfware also cannot find where you have the graphs per rpm/speed, would be nice to have that for tuning, also never found engine volts now with the dess key, i would love to eleminate the entire dess system(i find it usless and troublesome) your program gives a caution to remove it, whats your feeling on this, as i do not want to replace cpu sounds like the etec has a real complicated cpu, dont give up. That motor has lots of sensors, and we need all the help we can, since brp is so tightliped thanks for comming on here and keeping us informed. If the options is there you can change it, send me your trace file from when you last read the ski and I will take a look at which ECU is in it.
If you need help getting the trace files, send me an email and I will tell you how. Some of the models did not support the graphs and others did, we tried to support it if BRP did, like I said above send the trace file and I can look into it further. DESS system, We have found it to be a real problem with the MPEM's when you try to disable it. We have done a couple Siemens ECU's and it did not work, however I have done a few other Jet Ski's and it worked great. There's really no pattern to what works and what doesn't, it's an undocumented feature, so we really can't support it.
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But we left it in for the people that really wanted it. All it's doing is setting the keys back to the value that was in at the factory before a key was programmed, and did not require a key. Unfortunately we found that some MPEM's just don't work anymore after you go back, so use at your own risk! We are working away on the ETEC don't worry!
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