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Since the introduction of the HTC EVO 4G LTE, and the EVO 3D, and original EVO 4G before that, there have been continued complaints that the EVO is useless or damaged because it ships with a locked bootloader, or because you can’t get S-OFF if you updated the firmware, or because you can’t flash custom kernels or ROMs due to these reasons. Update: This applies to most HTC products.
I’d like to try and dispel some misinformation here and arm you with what you can and can’t do with the phones – and hopefully not introduce more incorrect information into the arguments. First off, you should know that Root, S-OFF, and an unlocked bootloader do not depend on each other. I’ll go into what each of these are below. Root (Superuser/SuperSU) “Root” is a term that essentially means running a program without restrictions. We have root management programs called Superuser and SuperSU that allow one to choose whether or not to allow a program to run with root access.
When you install a program from Google Play, you’ll notice all sorts of permissions, such as FULL INTERNET ACCESS, READ PHONE STATE AND IDENTITY, along with many others. These are the restrictions that an application has when running; it specifically has to be granted permission to do something in order to function. A program also can’t touch any other program’s data, code, or whatnot. A root-running program does not need any of these permissions in order to do what it wants. It just requests to run as root, and then it can grab your data, modify other programs, and send all your contacts text messages containing your photos if it wanted. It never has to ask permission.
Root allows you and your applications to run with scissors through most of the operating system, and it’s great. Most custom ROMs ship with Superuser/SuperSU for root access, although there is no requirement that they do so. You can have a custom ROM without root. You can also have a custom ROM that grants root to everything without the aid of a superuser application. You do not have to be either HTCDev unlocked (the official method), or S-OFF, or running a custom ROM to have root access, although most people would be running a custom ROM and be one of the two. Without being HTCDev unlocked or S-OFF, you generally are required to run a local root exploit to obtain root. The HTC EVO 4G LTE had one of these several days before the phone was available.
These generally will throw up a “tampered” warning that can be removed by installing a new RUU. So, root does not require the phone to be unlocked or S-OFF, but it generally goes hand in hand with them.
I've ran into a pretty big problem with a HTC Desire 500. After a couple of small problems and bugs, i've tried a factory reset, the phone worked for a couple of hours, but then it froze. Now it will only start in fastboot mode.
Unlocked bootloader / fully unlocked bootloader All HTC phones ship with a locked bootloader. Almost all HTC phones you can unlock the phone for free and with not too much hassle by using the manufacturer’s website,. Last I checked, all of the EVO line is unlockable there. Unfortunately, some people have issues with the warning that you might be voiding your warranty.
They take this to mean, “you do this, we know who you are, if anything goes wrong with our product, you’re out $500.” That’s not what the warning says though, and since most of you are Sprint customers, you should know you deal with Sprint for warranty work, not with HTC. Sprint and HTC both have a history of taking unlocked phones and repairing them. In fact, you can check out the. As for HTC’s policy, I’m still waiting for someone to loudly complain they were denied due to using the unlock website.
I’ve been waiting for a year. It may have happened, but it’s not commonplace. An unlocked bootloader generally means you’re able to put a custom ROM on the phone, or “flash a ROM.” In the way we use it, an unlocked bootloader is taken to mean being able to write to partitions on the phone’s internal memory that the operating system lives on. This is done from a level of operations called recovery. The HTCDev unlock method allows you to do most of this; however, it does not allow you to directly access the internal space where the software lives that talks to the carrier towers (i.e.
Sprint.) This is done, in theory, to prevent spoofing of someone else’s phone, running on the wrong band, wreaking havoc with nearby cell phones, disabling carrier controls, etc. The HTCDev method also does not allow Recovery to access the kernel space, or stock splash screen areas of the phone.
The theory behind this being that the stock recovery requires the kernel intact in order to work, so if you damaged or changed the kernel, you might have a semi-bricked phone. I’m not entirely sure on the splash screens though – I think they got caught up with the stability attempts. Opponents of the HTC method claim that the unlock method HTC provides prevents kernel developers and the AOSP projects such as CyanogenMod from going forward because you can’t flash a kernel from Recovery mode. AOSP requires specialized kernels generally.
Now, starting with the EVO 3D, we had this. We got around it using a method where we flashed kernels from fastboot instead of recovery. Team Win introduced a method called that allows flashing kernels sort of from recovery mode (it sets up a script, boots into Android mode for a second, flashes via Android mode, and pops back out). Also flashes kernels from Android mode, bypassing the restriction. Came along and did a modified version of Dumlock that works like a champ. The total extra time to flash a kernel due to HTC’s kernel-protection is about six seconds.
Radios are off limits as per the carrier’s request. If you’re going to use Sprint, you’re going to run the radio software they gave you. In the past, this has not been much of an issue. You can still update radios, it’s just a. Having an unlocked bootloader does not mean you have root. You just have the ability to flash a ROM, which generally will contain a root-giving program.
I’ve run unlocked on my EVO 3D since a week after I got it, flashed a couple of hundred ROMs, and never once had one that I couldn’t due to having an HTCDev unlocked bootloader. S-ON/S-OFF S-OFF means you have complete control of the phone. Security off. Do whatever you want from whatever mode you want.
HTC does not really care if you get S-OFF on your phone, but the carriers do. An S-OFF phone means you have access to write new radio firmware into the device. HTC is required by their agreements with the carriers to do what they can to prevent users from being able to install firmware that could be potentially disruptive to the towers, or prevent the carrier from accessing your device without your knowledge, which may be required by the government or a warrant. Every new software update that the carrier pushes will contain new code by HTC to attempt to prevent you from getting S-OFF. An S-OFF phone has no restrictions on what you write, so you could wipe the kernel, bootloader, and everything out and be stuck with a phone with no operating system and no way to do anything. An S-OFF phone can show that it still has a locked bootloader, although recovery will treat the phone as though it is unlocked.
Having S-OFF does not mean you have root, although you can flash a ROM with root. You can also flash kernels and splash screens directly from recovery without any additional methods required.
S-OFF exploits are almost universally patched from version to version, and unless you’re really paranoid about HTCDev voiding your warranty, it’s not worth waiting for. Unlock via HTCDev, and get S-OFF later when it’s available.
An S-OFF phone that’s updated to a new software version that patches the exploit used to obtain S-OFF generally will not re-enable security on that phone. You should still be S-OFF.
Conclusion Hopefully that covers it. If you’re angry about a locked bootloader, there’s no reason to be other than that HTC has not written a recovery that allows flashing of kernels, and you have to take six more seconds to flash with a custom recovery. They have their reasons, which may appear annoying and directed against root-seeking people, but are easily surmountable.
If you’re angry about S-OFF, direct your anger at the carriers. And if I’m missing something or wrong about anything above, please let me know and I’ll correct it as quickly as possible. I’d like to have one completely solid piece of information on HTCdev, EVOs, unlocked bootloaders, and S-OFF so people can get on to complaining about what’s really wrong with the carriers, the phones they put on the network, and how they treat root-wanting customers. With HTC, they have not been very good about providing source to the kernel in a timely fashion or the compiled proprietary binaries required to get the hardware HTC does not manufacture (such as the NFC and video chips, etc) Basically what HTC does is package a lot of stuff and then release source as required by the GPL, usually waiting months before doing that. It was a pain on the 3D, compounded by non-stop kernel and developer drama and a bunch of people screaming that nothing could be done because HTC was either not complying with the GPL, had an unwritable bootloader (not the case) or were leading false development campaigns to get money out of people who didn’t know what was going on. A lot of people got discouraged and abandoned ship. You can’t even seem to get anything AOSP done for the 3D without someone quitting in disgust, a denial of service attacks, lawyers, or someone misdirecting your anger at someone else.
There’s been a lot of AOSP love poured into the EVO line and there’s been even more hate. I’d say the main reason for the slow development has 1/3rd to do with HTC, and 2/3rds to do with non-stop infighting on the most popular HTC phone line ever. It has been weird. Paul, As usual, you have provided a great amount of information.
I do have one question, from what you wrote, and what I have read in other places, if I took the most recent OTA, I should still be able to unlock the bootloader via htcdev, and then root the phone. Is this correct?
And once that is done, I can then flash a recovery, and customs roms at that time, right? I know I can not acheive s-off at this time because of the OTA, and really don’t think I need it because I don’t usually flash kernels, splash screens, or radios. I would unlock via HTCdev, flash a custom Recovery, install Superuser binary from recovery, then install superuser from the market. You can also use the Regawmod rooter which was recently updated, and I believe it does all that stuff for you automatically. With S-ON, if you want to flash a kernel or splash screen, you still can, just will take the new version of TWRP (which you’ll be installing) or using Flash Image GUI. What you can not do: flash radios, change hboot. As of right now there are two radios – the old ones that don’t work completely and the new ones that do work completely.
How you doing Paul I sent yoeu a friend request on fb I am pretty New to the rooting process but I am very interested in learning all I can I would greatly appreciate it if you would be kind enough to help me I just paid to have my HTC vivid ics rooted I took my sd card out of course so he didn’t delete anything while unlocking bootloader well he got bootloader unlocked and got it rooted he said I had clockworkmod rec. All I had to do was go to restart then select reboot clockworkmod rec. Well I downloaded Rom manager and selected install or update clockworkmod rec. While having put my sd card back in and know I can’t reboot into recovery at all it bootloops at the HTC screen I hope this isn’t something too serious to fix because I can’t afford to take it back to the place that rooted it if you would please walk me through the easiest way to fix this I would really appreciate it thank you and god bless.
Your article was very informative. It’s more or less most of the inform I’ve gathered on rooting in a neat coherent article. I have a Sprint EVO 3D and I’m only interested WiFi hotspot access.
I have Foxfi but it will not connect because it is being block by Sprint. My question is, will rooting allow me to turn off this block, or allow me to give Foxfi permission to access the radio? I want to tamper wit the phone as little as possible here. I know its off topic but any help would be greatly appreciated. Up in the GoodAndEVO tab, click that and there should be something that says EVO Glossary – should have you a slightly dated but otherwise decent list of terms. Simple unlock and root, or local root will get you going quite a ways unlock or s-off needed for custom ROMs.
Most of the ROMs we review link to development pages, so anything we review you can see if it looks like there’re issues you can’t get beyond anything that says ROM Pick: Romname means we liked it or thought it was worth looking at, anything that says “rom xxx released” means we saw it, may have even run it, but it wasn’t something we’d either spent enough time on or felt like saying “go and download this”. Generally don’t review ROMs that are terrible not to say if we haven’t reviewed a ROM it’s terrible, as there are at least 11 on the 4G, 3 on the $G LTE, and 6 on the 3D I haven’t gotten to yet. Hey Raja, I only know the EVO, Nook, and Samsung worlds of rooting so I can’t tell you what the names of the things you’re going to look for are but there should be a thing called Apps2SD or more specifically DTA2SD or Links2SD in the Desire developer forums on xds-developers.com Look for a ROM that has that sort of thing it’ll use your SD card for storage. Most ROMs on phones with small internal storage have that sort of thing. You probably will get more space right off the bat from installing a custom ROM they usually uninstall bloat, but not having that phone in front of me I can’t really tell you much about the development on the Desire and how good or not it is. Generally if you root you can force uninstall apps you don’t like, or force apps to be moved to the SD card using Titanium backup.
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I used dirtyracun method last night. Was very fought but I got it a I’m running team unlimited s-off. Sprint block my phone from there network/I didn’t do hands free activation don’t know. Couldn’t use text or call got error 16. Sprint had to reconnect me to network an the wanted to know what I was doing to have this happen. I just told her I did a hard reset an it didn’t promote hands free. She said ok no problem 5 seconds later I was back on network.
Error 16 is a security meausre to stop network hacking. Does the top of the screen when you’re in recovery say ClockworkMod Recovery version something or other or are you just seeing wipe sd, reboot, may one or two more options? If you’re not seeing ClockworkMod recovery at the top, the recovery is the stock Glacier recovery I’m betting. Sorry, without you pointing me to the articles I can’t comment. While S-OFF/S-ON locked/unlocked are about the same from place to place, recovery can be tricky, and there’re a few hundred combos of phones, models, carrier quirks and device-specific recovery problems for anyone to know what’s the issue.
I hope you can help me. I recently bought a HTC inspire 4g and is supposedly unlocked. I also checked on my phone and it is s-off.
The thing is when I put my sim card in, it shows no service. I checked on network settings and I can’t even search for any networks since none appear. Do you have any idea on what’s happening? I just want to use my phone. I don’t know if rooting the device if putting a custom ROM would fix the issue, but if that is the case what ROM would be recommended?
It’s an ATT phone and I’m trying to use an international carrier. Hope you can give me a hand. Hey everyone – for some reason Pocketables has not been sending me notifications until now that you’ve been writing here. For non-HTC EVO support I’d suggest you go to xda-developers.com and find your phone. I’m only good with the EVO lines because I know the names of the software and the intricacies of each version/model. Any other model I don’t know much beyond the across-the-board basics such as HTCDev and TWRP/CWM. There are thousands of apps that do the same thing for different phones is the problem I run into Rumrunner here = something else there.
Hi, my Evo runs on Yoda’s Stock Rom for VF Europe. I’ve done the htcdev unlock method, cwm and SU to get root. I needed it to disable the VF and other stock apps. Now I got an warranty case and I want to go back to factory set. Is it possible to relock the bootloader to. Lock., because S-ON is still there. If it shows locked no one can prove if I ever used the htcdev binary.
Or can I only reach relocked? In this case I wouldn’t do anything and ship it back to VF rooted.
Thanks foe your help! Good morning, I currently have a htc one m7ul. It is s=off,super cid and custom hboot.
If i relock the bootloader via 2)reset your “lock status flag” to LOCK your bootloader,enter the following: adb devices adb shell su (if needed to get a # prompt) echo -ne ‘ x00 x00 x00 x00’ dd of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 bs=1 seek=33796 (i would very strongly recomend you copy/paste this) exit (exit a second time if you need to to get back to a normal prompt) adb reboot bootloader will i still in theory remain unlocked? And i can still flash anything and use any mods etc and not worry as it will just be a mask over the unlocked sign? Kind regards. Hi’ Paul I see you are expert in root issue, and I hope you will help me solve my problem. Is goes like this: I can not get root access on my HTC Incredible S. Originally I started to follow a guide on xdadevelopers website on how to gain root access on this phone.
It was with the HTC method. It ended up with the bootloader had “unlocked”, S-Off and HBOOT 2.02.0002. I had been using cm-7.2.0-vivo.zip and superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed. After that I put VivokatSTABLE301.31 (Android 4.4.2) and pagapps-modular mini-4.4.2-20140207-signed on. After that everything looks fine, I had now Android 4.4.2. The real reason why I wanted to upgrade my phone was that I would be able to use screen mirroring.
Unfortunately, Screen Cast cannot see my T516 dongle, but then I discovered that Koushik Dutta has made a Mirror apps that might be used. When I would install the apps, I was told that my phone did not have root access. During the upgrade to android 4.4.2, was that right disappeared and Superuser was gone.
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HBOOT menu was still ” unlocked “, but now with S-On. I having failed to find a solution to this issue, so I followed the instructions on how to use the Revolutionary method. It ended up in the following states: Android 2.3.3, HTC sence 2.1, HBOOT 6.13.1002, but with S- Off and ” Revolutionary ” standing there where before there was ” Unlocked “. Then I flash superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed, VivokatSTABLE301.31 and pagapps-modular-mini-4.4.2-20140207-signed again. At the end flash 4.4.2 boot.img. My HTC is now back up on Android 4.4.2 and still with S-Off.
When I run RootChecker it says No Root access. The same happens in Terminal when I enter SU, it will return with a $ sign instead of #, but if I reboot to fastboot menu and run adb shell and then enter SU, it returns with the # character, which says that there is root access. If I open Busybox installer, it says “your device is rooted”, but it will not install Busybox on the system volume. The same applies Mirror apps.
It asks me to verify that Superuser installation is working correctly. Hboot menu now looks like this: -Revolutionary- VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL HBOOT-6.13.1002 RADIO-3805.06.03.03M eMMC-boot Apr 1 2011,18:34:39 Recovery ver.
Revolutionary CWM v.4.0.1.4 (in the first attemt to flash 4.4.2, it was ClockworkMod Recovery ver. 6.0.2.7) During Developer options I have selected Apps and ADB in root access and enabled Android debugging. In the settings menu a #Superuser appears. It says “There are currently no Superuser app Policies”. If I choose Superuser 3.1.3 app and press check for updates, signals a return that I have the latest version, but if I press the update bottum, it reports an error Gaining root access.
Here stops my imagination. I simply do not know what to do from here to get the required root access. I am an amateur in this field, so I need help. Maybe its possible to give R/W permission to system by a ADB command, but I dont know how. I’m totaly stock:-(.
I’m not familiar with that particular ROM/phone, but what it sounds like is that your superuser binary is not functioning. What I would do is (after making a backup of everything) grab the binary for your device – IE flash that in recovery, and see if it doesn’t start working. After installing that, if it still doesn’t, install SuperSU from the market and see if that doesn’t take care of anything. Currently it sounds just like your Superuser in the ROM isn’t talking to the superuser binary which happens sometimes. Not being familiar with that ROM and phone, you may want to check with someone on XDA to make sure SuperSU will be ok for that rom/phone combo you might need find the equ Chainfire or ChainsSD versions of Superuser to make it work or ClockworkMod’s superuser.
But the fix should be the same regardless – reflash the binary, reinstall the apk. Try it and let me know if it works. Am I your first complaint? I bought an HTC One through AT&T. I took me a day or so to get tired of the bloat and I wanted the clean Play Edition ROM so I unlocked the bootloader, and flashed the Play Edition ROM from XDA.
Didn’t seem like that big of a deal. I didn’t unlock the SIM, and kept S-ON. Then, my charge port started getting loose before I realized how big of a problem it was, the phone wouldn’t charge at all.
So, no ability to re-flash to stock not that it would have mattered much if relocking the bootloader means it says “relocked” instead of “locked” but what do I have to worry about? Hardware issue isn’t related to unlocking the bootloader or custom ROM, right?
So, off it went to HTC for warranty repair replacing the USB board, which I can buy for $15, but can’t take the uni-body phone apart to replace easily myself. Then HTC denies my warranty repair because “they are required by law to return carrier branded phones in the same state that they were purchased from the carrier.” I pressed the resolution specialist that they elevated me to, and all he could give me were feeble references to outdated statements by the Library of Congress regarding the legality of rooting and unlocking. They would not budge, even though I told the guy that if it was simply a matter of HTC internal policy, I would accept that as an answer and move on to another hardware provider.
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He insisted that they were bound by federal law. So, they want $216 for a main board replacement instead of must replacing a cheap satellite board. They won’t budge. HI!, i found this article helpfull considering i didnt know that s-off/s-on existed untill just now! Same with bootloader but i have rooted phones before, i have a question though, if i unlock my bootloader on my HTC Desire 601 will it allow me to switch service providers? I use straighttalk and bought my phone from virgin mobile and it’s supposed to prompt you for an unlock code at start-up when you use an unnaccepted sim, but my phone doesnt, it just gives me a notification saying my 4G LTE/GSM won’t work due to simlock.
Hi, I've ran into a pretty big problem with a HTC Desire 500. After a couple of small problems and bugs, i've tried a factory reset, the phone worked for a couple of hours, but then it froze. Now it will only start in fastboot mode. I don't really know what to do from here - if i press recovery, i get the green HTC logo and nothing happens, even after 15 minutes. The phone is from Vodafone, so i guess it's locked. Is there any way to fix the phone or is it bricked?
I've lost all hope, i've been trying for days but nothing seems to bring it to life.
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